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Does LLM Pre-Training Typically Occur at the Edge of Stability?

Quadratic approximations provide a common lens for studying neural network optimization, but recent evidence challenges their predictive validity. In full-batch gradient descent with learning rate (LR) $η$, Cohen et al. (2021) observed the Edge of Stability (EoS), where the largest Hessian eigenvalue concentrates near $2/η$, seemingly at odds with classical stability conditions predicted by quadratic approximations. In this work, we revisit the fidelity of quadratic approximations as a model of neural network training dynamics, with a particular focus on their failure modes in LLM training. We first highlight a distinct failure mode of the quadratic approximation, where persistent negativ...

AuthorsYuhang Cai, Haodong Wen, Haofeng Huang et al.
Primary categorycs.LG
Published27 October 2026
Last updated at source27 October 2026
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