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The Ephemeral Cost of Switching Optimizers Across LLM Training Stages

Recent work suggests that switching optimizers between pretraining and subsequent training stages incurs a performance cost, but systematic investigation of this phenomenon is lacking. We study the mismatch between AdamW and Muon optimizers by pretraining 1.2B Llama-3 models from scratch while varying the proportion of updates taken with each optimizer, and similarly interpolating between the two optimizers during continued pretraining and supervised fine-tuning (SFT). Surprisingly, we find little evidence of a meaningful optimizer mismatch penalty: final performance is largely explained by the independent effects of the pretraining and post-training optimizers, with downstream performanc...

AuthorsXinyu Zhao, Davis Wertheimer, Ashutosh Sharma et al.
Primary categorycs.LG
Published15 October 2026
Last updated at source15 October 2026
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