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No Subspace to Track: Non-Identifiability and Optimizer State in Low-Rank Training

Memory-efficient optimizers such as GaLore train large language models by projecting gradients onto a rank-r subspace recomputed every T steps, assuming this subspace is a slowly drifting object that can be tracked. We show that beyond a small reproducible core, there is no such object. Two estimates of the top-r subspace computed at the same step from disjoint minibatches disagree as much as estimates computed T steps apart (0.73 vs 0.74 of the maximal chordal distance sqrt(2r), at Pythia-160M with r=128): the apparent rotation at each refresh is dominated by estimator noise. This holds across four model families in three architecture classes from 70M to 6.9B parameters, strengthening wi...

AuthorsNoel Thomas
Primary categorycs.LG
Published7 July 2026
Last updated at source19 July 2026
cs.LGmath.OCstat.ML
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